Feature #497

Replace goatsound

Added by Spyhawk over 5 years ago. Updated 8 months ago.

Status:New% Done:

20%

Priority:LowSpent time:-
Assignee:keMoN
Category:Mod CGAME
Target version:2.78
OS: Arch:

Description

I understand it has a practical function (ie, warning people around that someone has been backstabbed by an enemy covops), but seriously, the goatsound sound should be replaced by something that fits the game better.

Meat_Punch.mp3 (507 KB) Spyhawk, 10.01.2019 12:38

Associated revisions

Revision 47504443
Added by IR4T4 about 3 years ago

mod: MOD_BACKSTAB introduced refs #497 This limits the 'goat’ sound to
backstabs.

game: Don’t do the 'fancy’ medic scream when player is killed by gibbing
mod

History

#1 Updated by Spyhawk over 5 years ago

  • Subject changed from Replace goatsound to Replace covops goatsound
  • Description updated (diff)

#2 Updated by Dragonji over 5 years ago

By the way, can it be completely disabled?

#3 Updated by Spyhawk over 5 years ago

Dragonji wrote:

By the way, can it be completely disabled?

There are a lot of thing that could improve the covops class, disabling the goatsound being one of them. But imho, this should be only optional, and needs to be discussed along other optional classes improvements (ie, after 2.71 is released and once we get some "official" future planning/vision for the mod from Radegast and others).

#4 Updated by Spyhawk over 5 years ago

  • Target version changed from 2.78 to 2.71rc4

Just realized that the goat sound is not part of vanilla. It seems to originate from the OSP mod for RtCW, and has been reimplemented in most (if not all?) et mods, including etpro. There’s one occurrence in vanilla code, but it is commented out. The goat sound is also not broadcasted, only the attacker/victim can heard it.

Imho, we should completely get rid of it - I don’t think that such "fun" feature makes sense in legacy mod.

#5 Updated by IR4T4 over 5 years ago

Sounds create atmosphere ... in game or in maps. From my point of view I wouldn’t remove a sound which is 'kind of standard’ it ET. Ok - it isn’t a vanilla sound but well known by players. I pretty much like this sound to frighten camping snipers

#6 Updated by Radegast over 5 years ago

Goat sound is the epitome of fun features, but I would make an exception for it and either keep it as it is or just make it optional. It really is pretty annoying when someone stabs you from behind and you hear goats. It makes you angry and wanting to get revenge.

#7 Updated by Spyhawk over 5 years ago

Sounds create atmosphere ... in game or in maps.

I full agree on that. However, I don’t think the goatsound creates the "right" atmosphere for legacy mod, and I don’t believe that "being standard" makes it good either.
I personally always have hated this sound (so I’m kinda biased here), because it creates a "WFT?" moment that simply doesn’t fit (maybe except in fun oriented mod). Also, it isn’t this sound that creates a revenge feeling - the backstab itself does.

Goat sound is the epitome of fun features, but I would make an exception for it and either keep it as it is or just make it optional.

To be honest, I think creating an optional cvar just for this sound is the road to bloatware. I’d rather bear it and heard this sound every time and keeping the mod core as simple and as clean as possible. But I’d still prefer to replace or remove it instead

#8 Updated by IR4T4 over 5 years ago

Spyhawk wrote:

...because it creates a "WFT?" moment that simply doesn’t fit ...

hehe that’s what I’m talking about ... it fits perfectly
Well it’s kind of taste finally ... at least admins can decide to drop it by overwriting the sound with a blank wav.

#9 Updated by Spyhawk over 5 years ago

that’s what I’m talking about ...

Not really, let me rephrase it:

It’s not "WTF? What just happened?" (ie, "backstab effect"), but "WTF is that shitty sound?", which is totally different. It also depends more on which atmosphere we want to give to legacy mod. The goat sound might perfectly fits NQ (and I’d agree here, it’s in line with the mario goomba sound for example), but legacy...

#10 Updated by Dragonji over 5 years ago

ETPro made it a "standard" so the argument it’s fun sound is invalid IMO

#11 Updated by Spyhawk over 5 years ago

Dragon> Having "Pro" in its name doesn’t make a mod "pro" (but a good antilag, ettv feature and some anti-cheat counter measures help to achieve it)

#12 Updated by Dragonji over 5 years ago

Being a ET standard in all the leagues makes it "pro"

#13 Updated by Spyhawk over 5 years ago

  • Priority changed from Normal to Low
  • Target version changed from 2.71rc4 to 2.78

#14 Updated by IR4T4 about 3 years ago

  • Subject changed from Replace covops goatsound to Replace goatsound
  • Target version changed from 2.78 to 2.76
  • % Done changed from 0 to 20

The sound was played on any knife kill and not for the covert only!

This is actually pretty annoying The code has been changed to play the sound for backstab kills only.

I can imagine a fleshy sound for this now.

#15 Updated by IR4T4 about 2 years ago

  • Target version changed from 2.76 to 2.78

#16 Updated by keMoN about 2 years ago

  • Assignee set to keMoN

#17 Updated by Spyhawk 8 months ago

Added a "meat punch" sound as attachment, which might be a good fit here. Found on the free Youtube audio library.

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